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Border Fence Still Unresolved

Cross posted from Liberally Conservative

Bloomberg is reporting:

The Democratic-controlled Congress won’t approve financing for a 700-mile fence along the U.S.- Mexico border and is exploring scaled-down alternatives, lawmakers say.

The fence, pushed through Congress by Republicans during last year’s election campaign, will only be built where physical barriers have proven effective, such as near cities like El Paso, Texas, lawmakers say. The Bush administration supports substituting electronic and aerial surveillance along parts of the border.

Boeing Co. is installing a 28-mile prototype of a “virtual fence’’ near Tucson, Arizona, with electronic sensors, surveillance cameras on portable towers and unmanned aerial aircraft. The project is part of a $2.5 billion contract the Chicago-based defense contractor won last year to help the U.S. detect illegal border crossings from Mexico and Canada.

Massachusetts Democrat Edward M. Kennedy and Representative Bennie Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat who heads the House Homeland Security Committee, said they would study ways to redesign the fence.

Feelings from other politicians:

“At some point, physical barriers might be part of a plan, but we want to look at how many men or personnel we need to support some kind of border security initiative,’’ Thompson said. “Right now we don’t have a plan.’’

“This is still a work in progress,’’ said Senator John Cornyn. He and fellow Texas Republican Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison are seeking to revise last year’s fence measure, which isn’t popular among Texans living near the border.

“We voted for the authorization for the fence because that was really the only vote we had on border security,’’ Cornyn said. “Technology, I believe, is the best way to secure our border.’’

Local issues:

The eight-member Laredo City Council unanimously passed a resolution in August opposing construction of the 700-mile fence.

Ranchers whose land abuts the Rio Grande have complained it would make it impossible for their cattle to graze in the river, said Democratic Representative Henry Cuellar, whose district includes Laredo and ranchland along the river. “There is that issue of private property,’’ he said.

City officials want to foster commerce with Nueva Laredo, a larger city on Mexico’s side of the Rio Grande, Cuellar said. “We would rather be building bridges than fences.’’

LC is glad they all want to discuss this, but it’s disheartening when a vote is held and then retracted for political reasons. In the meantime, amnesty is a serious consideration in the feckless Senate and illegals are still streaming over the border, while the California Governor wants to provide healthcare for the masses.

**This was a production of The Coalition Against Illegal Immigration (CAII). If you would like to participate, please go to the above link to learn more. Afterwards, email the coalition and let us know at what level you would like to participate.

4 Responses

  1. http://uncooperativeblogger.com/?p=4547

    Well I’d have to agree with WS’s comment in the above link, particularly the part which goes “… and our government that seems more concerned with enforcing the law on its citizens than on … illegals”. What I would fail to understand however is if, in the presence of better information, someone would expect to see a different outcome.

    Firstly let me say a large amount of damage has already been done and in order for the affects of illegal immigration to be substantially reduced, not only would illegals have to be stopped but also a substantial number of those would have to be sent back. The problem with these numbers is not so much in the numbers, but the work & wages they are willing to accept.

    Now in order to understand why nothing is getting done, one must understand why it’s got to be this way. One needs not get into the extreme adversity in illegal immigration and how it is harmful to the masses, instead one can understand how it Is beneficial to the few. Its as simple as this “To a large corporation, lower wages = lower cost = higher profits”. For instance, you don’t need to be in America to understand why things are the way they are at Wall mart. How many working at lower wages out there?

    Oh but I don’t know what im talking about right. The outcry we see today on this issue was always expected particularly when long ago, it was noticed by many that the authorities were turning a blind eye on the matter. But just to highlight links between corporate interests & the government (and that both are often one and the same) lets take the 1997 case of COSCO case.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1997/vo13no09/vo13no09_beijing.htm
    http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1997/vo13no10/vo13no10_cosco.htm
    http://www.eagleforum.org/column/1997/june97/97-06-11.html

    It seems a bit strange that the authorities would rather have saddam be seen as a greater enemy than that of the authorities in china when the latter poses a far greater threat than saddam could ever have (and I mean that several different levels). Saddam who was once backed by the US and lived in a country far away from it, was not found with WMDs & certainly did not have the potential to attack the US even if he did. Certainly China is more powerful in this regard and neither is the leadership in that country any better than the leadership under Sadam. Despite the need to highlight their military capabilities and fascist kind of rule, the immediate threat from China has never been a one of displaying military might but rather an economic one.

    Despite knowing all this would the US cooperate with such a nation? Well yes they would and they have done so. In 97’ there was a proposal to turn over the Long beach naval weapons shipyard in southern California, one of three military ports and the only one on the western coast, over to COSCO, a shipping firm closely associated with the Military industrial complex in China. I believe the plans not only did go ahead but perhaps the status of the plans after its implementation has not changed. Note copyright 2006 at the end of the page (immediate link) below

    http://www.newsletterscience.com/marex/readmore.cgi?issue_id=65&article_id=550&l=&s=
    http://www.cosco.com/en/global_offices/staff.jsp?catId=652
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=16720
    http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?we_cat=9&art_id=14229&sid=7036421&con_type=1&d_str=20060316
    http://www.cargonewsasia.com/timesnet/data/cna/docs/cna6786.html

    Why would a one country allow another fascist regime known for the slave treatment of to take over control of the only strategic military port western coast? Well for one, a globalist government could only care less about national interest and more about global governance. Secondly again there is corporate benefit derived from importing low cost goods manufactured by the slave labour in china. The low cost goods in this case for instance, after shipment, would first end with large wholesale markets set nearby & then ultimately end up in large retail stores around the country. Turn over a can in a store and it would then have to read “made in china” from then on. Oh yeah and back then, it was clear that there were other risks involved in turning over control of the port

    http://www.nisat.org/blackmarket/america/north_america/united_states_of_america/97.03.22-Containers%20Linked%20to%20arms%20case%20found%20on%20Mexican%20border.html
    http://www.nisat.org/blackmarket/america/north_america/united_states_of_america/97.03.15-Arms%20discovery%20sets%20off%20alarms–Mexican%20border.html
    http://www.ioscorepublicans.org/arclbns.htm
    http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?we_cat=9&art_id=14229&sid=7036421&con_type=1&d_str=20060316
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=28602

    Well then, so what are the economic implications of all this. A large section of the manufacturing industry for one has virtually disappeared to other countries, the manufacturing and service industry within the US is being flooded with illegals who are more likely to be willing to accept lower wages forcing other citizens to compete with them. In other words the economic worth of the nation drops & its economic effects slowly begin to be felt by individuals. Consequently, the effects are the opposite in nations now having increasing economic activity. The corporations however win no matter what the outcome is for the individual countries.

    Oh and for those who wish to point a finger at the stock markets in showing how well the country is doing at any point, just a degree of caution for you guys. The valuation of stocks in the market depend largely on two factors namely, markets efficiency in interpreting information and secondly market expectation of the future worth of underlying stocks. The fact market expectations (EPS and Price/earning ratios) comes into play clearly indicates Asset backing (True current worth of assets) isn’t always considered as a primary means of valuation and therefore this suggests that there is a great possibility that stocks maybe highly overvalued (or undervalued) at any given time provided information about current and/or future market conditions either unknown or interpreted inaccurately.

    The implications of the above mentioned state of affairs have always been as obvious as ever. And still after discovering all of this, people will still continue to insist that it isn’t true that the administration (doesn’t matter who’s in office) does not protect the interests of its people. Well then what can I say after that except that, if you aren’t already sleeping you might as well never wake up because I promise you this, that when you finally do, its not going to look so good.

  2. Lord Dar, we all know the benefits to the employers, I am for hitting the employers HARD.

    You have been away and not listening to my radio show dar, non of this is new to me and our government is the culpable agent.

    Heck read
    http://www.spp.gov

  3. Oh yes,the canada america mexico thing. Theyve already implemented those “freedom to move factors of production within” trade blocs out there and now it seems like the time to have it the same way with Nafta. The trade bloc is there in the case of nafta but the movement of factors of production arent flexible enough yet. You know how it works, step by step

    Your right, those rogue institutions like the Cfr and trilateral commission arent going to let it go so easily. If they want to get in the Amero, they just might get it. At this point I can only speculate as to how they could/would ever bring it in. But you may never know, theyve actually been quite successful with what theyve said in the past. I dont know, perhaps a recession or a bit of an economic collapse & these ideas may again appear as solution proposals (at which point people might be more willing to accept it if it did turn out that way). As always i hope they fail miserably.

  4. On that topic of Nafta, there was also this article :

    http://www.jbs.org/node/2518

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